Sunday, 27 May 2007

After all Christianity is not a religion*

Its high time we realise that this world is not just a place of conflicts and contradictions...

Its just a scientific world where originally there were no religions at all. When people failed to follow the science or in anyway disabled to understand it, required a medium to explain the same and thus the origin of more than few dozen religions now fighting against each one... Politically the Christianism have gained more momentum now a days to do what ? Spread peace around the world, not really to make more profits economically. Could we believe it ?

Where are we heading to ?

Just relax and go through this informative set of facts

Horus (Egypt 3000 BC ) was born on Dec 25th, born of a virgin, had a star in the east, adorned by 3 kings, was a teacher at 12 and baptized at 30 and began a ministry and had 12 disciples.
He performed miracles and was also called as the "The Truth", "The Light" , "Lamb of God", "The Good Shepherd" and many others. After being betrayed by Typhon he was crucified buried for 3 days and thus resurrected.

These facts were seemed to be the initiative for few other religious groups.
Attis -- > ( Greece 1200 BC ) Born dec 25th, born of a virgin, buried for 3 days, resurrected
Krishna ---> ( India 900 BC ) Born of a virgin, star in the east, performed miracles, resurrected
Dionysus -> ( Greece 500 BC ) Born of a virgin ( Myrra ), born on dec 25th, "king of kings" "Alpha & Omega"
Mithra --> ( Persia 1200 BC ) Born of a virgin, born on dec 25th, 12 disciples, dead for 3 days, resurrected.
Jesus Christ ( around 4 BC )--> Born of a virgin (Mary ) , born on dec 25th, star in the east, 12 disciples, performed miracles, dead for 3 days and resurrected.

Attributes :
Star in the east = "Sirius" Brightest star in the night sky which aligns with 3 other stars on dec 24th, which are called as "Three Kings" during ancient times. The Three Kings and Sirius on Dec 25th points the exact place of the sunrise which is proudly declared as birth of God's Son instead it should have been Birth of "God's Sun" at winter solstice. This is why the three kings follow the star in the east according to the religious myth.

Virgin is nothing but the constellation "Virgo" which has an ancient symbol of altered "M". Virgo is also considered as a "House of Bread" and the representation of Virgo is a virgin holding a sheaf of wheat. This House of Bread and Symbol of wheat represents August and September, the time of harvest in turn Bethlehem in fact literally translates to House of Bread, thus referenced to the constellation Virgo ( place on the sky and not on earth ).

Dec 25th : From the summer solstice to winter solstice days become shorter and colder. (Fall ) From the perspective of hemispheres shows the death of sun and by Dec 22 the Sun's demise was fully realised for sun moving towards the south for 6 months continuously making to the lowest point in the sky and stops here for 3 days till dec 24th and resides in the "Southern Cross" or the "Crux" constellation and finally on dec 25th the sun moves 1 degree towards the north this time instead of moving towards south for sharing longer days, warmth and spring, which is biblically represented as the "Son was crucified on the cross and dead for 3 days and then resurrected again" However they did not celebrate the Sun's resurrection until the spring Equinox or "Easter " as Sun over powers the darkness ( Evil ) and daytimes become longer.

12 Disciples : 12 Constellations which comes around the Sun ( Son, Jesus ). In fact the number 12 is repeated through out the bible , 12 tribes of Israel, 12 Brothers of Joseph, 12 Judges of Israel, 12 Great Pariarchs, 12 O.T.Prophets, 12 Kings of Israel, 12 Princes of Israel, Jesus in Temple at 12.

Symbol of Cross : The Cross of the Zodiac, the fugitive life of the sun. This was not just the artistic expression or tool to track the movement of sun. It was also a spiritual symbol, a close short of it is the symbol of cross. This is why Jesus is always shown on the cross with a circle behind, where Jesus is just a personification of the Sun.

"As long as I'm in the world, I'm the light of the World " - John 9:5

" And go quickly, and tell his disciples that He is Risen from the dead" - Matthew 28:6

"And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you " - John 14:3

" To give the light of knowledge of The Glory of God" - Corinthians II 4:6

" Let us cast off The works of Darkness and Let us Put on the armor of Light " - Romans 13:12

"Verily, I say unto Thee, Except a man be Born again, he cannot see the kingdom" - John 3:3

"They shall see the son Coming in the clouds" - Mark 13:26

"But he that came down from Heaven, even the Son which is in heaven" - John 3:13

"Then came Jesus forth wearing a Crown of thorns" - John 19:5

all such verses add up to say that the Sun of the god, light of the world, who would come again every morning who work against the works of the darkness as he is born again every morning, and can bee seen coming in the clouds, up in heaven with his crown of thorns which are nothing but the sun rays.

Ages : Throughout the scriptures there are numerous reference to the age which could be understood by the phenomenon known as precession of the equinoxes. Ancient Egyptians along with the cultures long before them recognised that approximately every 2150 years the sun rises on the morning of the spring equinox would occur on a different sign of zodiac.

The amount of processions to go through all 12 signs is roughly 25765 years, which is called as a great year which the ancient society was vary of it and they referred to each 2150 year period as an "Age" .
Taurus ( The Bull )4300 BC - 2150 BC (2)
Aries (The Ram ) 2150 BC - 1 AD (1)
Pisces(The Two Fish ) 1 AD to 2150 AD (12)
Aquarius(The Water Bearer ) 2150 AD to 4300 AD (11)

the first three ages are described on the script where a bit of the fourth is too mentioned.

When Moses came down with his 10 commandments, he was very upset when he saw people worshiping a golden bull and shattered the tablets and in anger instructed the men to kill each other in order to purify themselves.

"Go in and out from gate to gate and Slay every man his brother, and every man his companion and every man his neighbor...... " - Exodus 32 (Old Testament )

Scholars interpret this incident to the time where the Israelites were worshiping a false idol or something that affect.

The reality is the golden bull represents the Taurus age and moses represents the new age of Aries. This is why the Jews still blew the Ram's horn. Upon the new age everyone should shed the old age. ( also Mithra a person god kills a bull in the same symbology.
Jesus symbolises the age of Pisces, which could be found in the new testament.

Jesus feeds 5000 people with bread and 2 fish

"We only have five loaves of bread and 2 fish" - Matthew 14:17

When he began the ministry he befriends two fishermen who followed him.

We have all seen a Jesus fish on the back of the cars, which is a pagen astrological symbolism for the sun's kingdom during the age of Pisces.

when Jesus is asked by his disciples whats next when he is gone, Jesus replies

"Behold, When Ye are entered into the city, there shall a Man meet you bearing a pitcher or water... Follow him into the house where he entereth in" - Luke 22:10

where it describes nothing other than the age of Aquarius ( the water bearer ) would be after the age of Pisces.

While talking about the end of the world , Jesus says

"I will be with you even to the end of the world " - Matthew 28:20 according to the King James version of the Bible.

The actual word which is translated is "Aeon" and not the "world" as mentioned above, which means "AGE".

As Jesus's solar Piscean personification will end when the Sun enters the Age of Aquarius.

The entire concept of the end times or the end of the world is a misinterpreted astrological allegory and Lets Tell that to approximately 100 million people in America who believed that the end of the world is coming.

Further more the characters of Jesus being a literary and astrological hybrid is most explicidly a plagiarism of the Egyptian Sun God HORUS. for e.g. " Miracle Birth " idea 15 centuries before Christianity.

The images on the pyramid begin with thought that the virgin Isis that she would conceive Horus, then Nephthys the holy ghost in pregnanting the virgin, and then the virgin birth and then the adoration, which is exactly the story of the Jesus' miracle conception. In fact the literary similarities between the Egyptian and Christian religion are staggering and the Plagiarism continues.

The Story of Noah is directly taken from tradition. "Epic of Gilgamesh" written in 2600 BC
The Story of Moses
Mosses' birth : Placed in basket, set adrift in river to avoid infanticide, rescued and raised by royalty. This story is directly lifted from the history of Sargon's Birth (2250 BC ).

Moses is considered as Law giver same as "Manou" of India, "Mises" of Egypt and "Minos" of Greece.

As far as the 10 commandments they are taken outright from spell 125 in a Egyptian Book of the Dead.

" I have not stolen " became " Thou shall not steal "
" I have not killed " became " Thou shall not kill "
" I have not told lies " became " Thou shall not bear false witness "

In fact the Egyptian Religion is likely the primary foundation or basis for the Judayal Christian theology.

Baptism, Afer life, Final Judgement, Virgin birth, Death and Resurrection, Crucifixion, Ark of Covenant ,Circumcision, saviors, holy communion, great flood, easter, Christmas, passover and more all are attributes of Egyptian ideas, Long predating Christianity and Judaism.

Justin Martyr ( 100 - 165 AD ) one of the first Christian historians and offenders wrote
"When we say that He, Jesus Christ, Our Teacher, was produced without sexual union, was crucified and died, and rose again, and ascended into heaven We propound nothing different from what you believe regarding the sons of ( the god)Jupiter"

also in a different writing he said,

"He was born of a virgin, Accept this is common with what you believe of (the gold)Perseus"

Its Obvious Justin and other early Christians knew how similar christianity was to the pagen religions. However Justin had a solution. As far as you are concerned the devil did it. Devil came before Jesus Christ and create his characteristics in the pagen world.


In fact the aspect of transference of one character's attributes to the new character can be found in the same book itself. In Old Testament theres a story of Joseph who was the prototype for Jesus mentioned in the New Testament. Both were born of miracle births, Joseph was up 12 brothers and Jesus had 12 Disciples, Joseph was sold for 20 pieces of silver, Jesus was sold for 30 pieces of silver, Brother Judah suggests the sale of Joseph, disciple Judas suggests the sale of Jesus. Both began their work at age 30, and several more similarities.

Further more , is there any non biblical, historical evidence of any person living with the name Jesus, the son of Mary, who traveled about with 12 disciples healing people.

There are numerous historians lived in and around the mediterranean either during or soon after the assumed life of Jesus. How many historians document this figure........ NONE !!!!!

Aulus Perseus ( 60 AD ) , Columella ( 1 AD ), Dio Chrysostom (c. 40-c 112 AD ), Justus of Tiberius ( c 80 AD). Livy ( 59 BC - 17 AD), Lucanus ( fl. 63 AD ). Lucius Florus ( 1st - 2nd cent AD ), Petronius ( d 66 AD ), Phaedrus ( c 15 BC-c, 50 AD), Philo Judaeus( 20 BC-50AD), Philegon ( 1st Cent AD), Pliny the Elder ( 23 - 69 AD), Plutarch ( c. 46-c. 119 AD), Pomponius Mela ( 40 AD), Rufus Curtius ( 1st Cent. AD), Quintillian ( c. 35-c. 100 AD), Quintus Curtius ( 1st Cent. AD), Seneca ( 4 BC? - 65 AD), Silius Italicus ( c. 25-101 AD), Statius Caelicius ( 1st Cent. AD), Theon of Smyrna ( c. 70-c. 135 AD), Valerius Flaccus ( 1st cent.AD), Valerius Maximus(fl C.20 AD) etc....

However to be fair that doesn't mean defenders of the historical Jesus haven't claimed the contrary. Four historians have typically referenced to justify Jesus' existence.

Pliny the younger, Cetonius and Tasisus where the first three and each one of their entries consists of few sentences at their best. It only referred to the Chrestus , Christus or the Christ, which in fact is not the name but a title which means "The Anointed" one.

The fourth source named Flavius Josephus proved to a fraud for hundreds of years but sadly it is sighted as truth.


We do not want to be unkind but to stick on to the fact. We do not want to cause hurt feelings but we want to be academically correct in what we understand and know that they be truth. Christianity is just is not based on truth. We find that Christianity was infact nothing more than a roman story developed POLITICALLY.

The reality is Jesus was the solar deity of the naustic Christian sect and like all other pagen Gods he was a mythical figure. It was the political establishment that saw to historise the Jesus figure for social control.

By 325 AD in Rome Emperor Constantine convened the council of Nasaih. It was during this meeting the politically motivated Christian doctrines were established and thus began a long history of Christian bloodshed and the spiritual fraud and for the next 1600 years the Vatican maintained a political strangle hold on all of Europe leading to such joyous period of the dark ages, along with the lightning event such as the crusades and the imposition. Christianity along with all other theostic belief systems is the fraud of the age. it serves to detach the species from the natural world and likewise each other. It supports blind submission to authority. It reduces human responsibility to the effect that God controls everything and in turn awful crimes can be justified in the name of divine pursuit.

And most importantly it empowers those who know the truth but use the myth to manipulate and control societies. The religious myth is the most powerful device ever created and serves as a psychological soil upon which other myths can flourish.

"Religion can never reform mankind because religion is slavery"- Robert G Ingersoll 1833- 1899

A myth is an idea that while widely believed is false. In a deeper sense and the religious sense a myth serves as a orienting and mobilising story for people. The focus is not on the story's relation to the reality but on its function. A story can not function unless it is believed to be true in the community or the nation. It is not the matter of debate, its some people have the bad taste to raise the question of the truth of the sacred story. The keepers of the faith do not enter into the debate with them. They ignore them or denounce them as blast famous.

* purely drafted from a documentary.


Ramya AT said...

dont get confused by these writings....
Just know one thing.... Jesus is alive and HE IS REAL.
Just consider these two situations:
1. A mom holding a doll saying that its her baby...
2. A mom holding a real baby...
Both appear to be the same... but the difference is that that the former one never responds to whatever the mom does..
The latter one responds and loves back.....
Its just the same with Jesus... When you go to Jesus and talk to Him, He responds back to you. If this statement sounds funny, just try it yourself. TRY JESUS AND YOU WILL KNOW WHAT HE IS!! :)

Ramya AT said...

yes... even i agree with the topic....that christianity is not a religion!! :)
Christianity is just a love walk with Jesus :)

Vijesh said...

interesting discussion! Ramya!

Jeevanin Sahaa said...

One doesn't have to follow any religion to do good.. and of course the so called religious people are not like milk shakes to be tried... its one innocent nature to go after such proclaimed Gods. Gods are nothing but a healthy body and soul and if one has it HE IS THE GOD >>>> Poor children of south india are being mesmerised.... Like the words of comedian Vivek.... "people can't be changed even if we experience 1000s of Periyaars"....


jelle.fisher said...

Truth depends on where you stand. Mr Srini makes some very interesting points and is starting to see that the world is much more of an illusion than previously thought. There is a constant however, that every religion holds as golden and those who are not religious see as the highest expression of what it is to be human....that is LOVE. It is FREE. It is avialable right now as it is the creative, life giving power in the universe and in you. The more you atune to it's frequency, the more your life will flower.

growlgrrl said...

hey srini, thanks for checking out my site. as you can see, i have no sense of irony whatsoever ;). and i had come to a similar conclusion about the nature of many world religions and thought your particular spin on them as misunderstandings of earlier religions was an interesting one. i believe that ancient babylonian and sumerian mythologies are very similar as well. and of course there are aspects of hindu religion which sound very similar as well. i'm not well-versed enough in any of these mythologies to quote any exactly, so hat's off to you. i've been telling people i know to read your posting to get your theory first hand. i think we can live with the syntax and spelling errors. ;) namaste'

Krithika said...

I jus cant accept wit Ramyas opinion. I dont think its wise to compare Us to the mother and God to the doll or real bay. Its God who shud b compared with mother, as His luv is unconditional whether we respond to him(real baby) or not(doll).
Finally She has said TRY JESUS AND U WILL KNOW WHAT HE IS. If one cud try with Jesus and feel Him then Y not with other Gods???
I strongly believe in Shirdi Sai Baba and I do feel the same as He is the only God and Hes responding me appropriately.
BUT THE TRUTH IS "Each person has a God of their own, and they strongly believe in their own Gods that their God responds to them appropriately. It may be Jesus, Baba, Lord Ganesh, Lord Muruga, Lord Vishnu, or Lord Shiva (kindly excuse if I have missed the other Gods)". Its the MIND THAT MATTERS. But all their experiences are true.
I agree with Jeevanin sahaa for "One doesn't have to follow any religion to do good.. and of course the so called religious people are not like milk shakes to be tried"
If u have belief in any God then go ahead.
And If u dont believe in any God, jus wait, there wud b a time for u to realise the God. I have realised that baba as my God and Ramya has realised that Jesus is her God. Likewise u wud realise sooner r later.
It may b any of Gods or it may b even ur Parents, Sisters, Brothers, Husbands, Wives, or even ur Sons or Daughters.
All The Best.

Anonymous said...

People who do not believe in God claim themselves to be Scientific persons but they rely heavily upon the "false proofs" to digest their idea.

The attributes of the different gods you've stated from the "Zeitgeist" documentary are NOT RELIABLE.

Check out the ancient history of Greece, Egypt, Persia and India.....

They are contradictory!

Check it out for yourself.

For eg., Horus of Egypt has none of the attributes stated in the documentary.

He was not born of a Virgin but of the sexual union of Osiris and Isis.

Dionysus of Greece too was not born of a Virgin but of the sexual union of Zeus and Semele.

Anonymous said...

Just because there is a divine and loving being you call Jesus and he does and can 'talk' to you (unlike that baby doll) does -not- mean that Christianity is true, or that Christ ever existed.

That being doesn't care what name or belief you ascribe to 'him'.

If you don't believe me. Try it.

And yes. Zeitgeist is about 50% fact 50% bullshit. They (the people who made it) only care about what sells. It does however (in part 1) make some great comparisons a lot of which are true. However, if you research the time line, when things were written, etc. The dates are -way- too close to each other. They -all- borrowed from each other. They're all copy cats in the end.